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 Post subject: Heroes of Newerth
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:57 pm 
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The Dreamhack HoN tournament is starting

And yeah, it's 170,000SEK(17,800EUR) worth of prizes + prize money in the tournament. The highest ever on dreamhack.

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 Post subject: Re: Heroes of Newerth
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:48 pm 
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http://hon.esportmedia.com/video/2010/0 ... -msi-gam-2

Fucking awesome game for anyone who want to see what HoN is all about or just see an epic game. Use pop out player and you can decide size for yourself instead of the small player.

The first game is kinda boring but nice to see if you want the original continuity.

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 Post subject: Re: Heroes of Newerth
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:21 pm 
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Damn watching this makes ne think WHY OH WHY was is so important to make a remake of dota ? Dota was already global etc. Its the same shit only new names on the heroes that makes me confused. "OMG THAT VALKYR ARROW BLA BLA" <3 skilled mirana players.

I prefere dota and i wouldn't pay 30euros or w/e just to get a game thats the same shit... L2 get Garena if you whine about bnet


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 Post subject: Re: Heroes of Newerth
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:44 pm 
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It's not only the same heroes, there are several original heroes. Some heroes are ported and actually made better without the limitations of the wc3 engine. Clockwerk comes to mind, it is much better implemented in HoN as Pharaoh than it can ever be in wc3.
It's also a lot better than dota in many ways, it's not just graphic updates that was added to the game. Not sure why anyone would prefer dota over HoN when they claim it's the same game. The only thing dota has that is better are a few of heroes(Obsidian Destroyer, Pugna, Jakiro, Enchantress, Huskar) that has yet to be ported over to HoN.
The metagame in HoN is also completely different and always changing.


Also, it's currently free to play week if you want to try it. Sadly, you can only play no-stats games with f2p accounts to prevent stat-padding(boosting your own stats with another account). No-stats games aren't really the best place to try it since there are a lot of leavers just like public bnet dota. You still get a feel for the gameplay though.
https://www.heroesofnewerth.com/free2play.php

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 Post subject: Re: Heroes of Newerth
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:19 am 
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Who cares about graphs really.. oh wait ppl wanted sc2 so much also for just graphs when BW still is alot better for competing soo i guess its the same thing here. And wait counter strike got the same problem ppl started play other shit games when counter strike was a perfect e-sport game and still is imo. Now the US play console games like Halo 3 etc. How can you play an fps game with control pads its just retarted and you can never see the same reflex one shots like you saw every round in counter strike...

I dont care about graphs as longs as it is balanced and has a good game feeling for e-sports. Now dota is an bad example since it is made out of another game so i can feel icefrog maybe wanted to earn more money like everyone els -_- Couse from what i heared he is one of the creators of HoN?

But still its 30$ for a game thats has some updated graphs and features isn't my cup of tea. I would really like to play it just to see but cba i dont play dota anymore either so.


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 Post subject: Re: Heroes of Newerth
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:50 am 
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smyls wrote:
Who cares about graphs really.. oh wait ppl wanted sc2 so much also for just graphs when BW still is alot better for competing soo i guess its the same thing here.
klogg wrote:
It's also a lot better than dota in many ways, it's not just graphic updates


As I said, there are many more things that has been fixed and/or added to the game.


List if things made better from the top of my head:

Game browser.
Chat rooms.
Community aspect. (even though it's filled with trolls atm)
Game lobby.
Clan support.
Interface, massive modding support. (mods are banned in tournaments however, server side check which makes you unable to start the game with mods enabled in tournament mode)
Balance fixes.
Remakes and/or tweaks to some heroes that are not viable competitive heroes in dota.
Stat tracking.
Net code.
Spectator view.
Scoreboard. (in both spectator and player view)
VoIP. (actually exists, albeit abandoned most of the time)
Game hosting options.
Native keybinding support. (not having to use dotakeys or awkward binds)
Native reconnect function.
Native banlist.
Leaver protection.
Friends list. (there is a feature to automatically follow a person in to whatever game he joins, or you can join his game manually through friends list)
Invisible mode. (no one on your friends list can see you online, whispers and /who does not work)
Removed most RNG. (some skills still have percentage chance of activating. bash items/abilities has cooldowns to avoid perm-bash with some luck)
Flat value on magic armor instead of percentage reduction. (still calculates as percentage in accordance to how much magic armor you have)


Of course there are things that are actually worse in HoN:

Minor pathing issues. (avoidable with good micro)
Anti-stuck mechanic. (can lead to unexpected, gamebreaking, results. this is the most urgent issue where you can walk up/down cliffs at times when you get blocked at certain locations)
Graphics can get a bit too much at times and result in a mess on your screen.
Still missing a few key heroes from dota.



One of the biggest problems with HoN at the moment is the utter lack of PR. It is still relatively unknown among the gaming community. Self-published S2 doesn't spend much money on promoting the game other than injecting money into tournaments. More and more pro dota players are slowly coming to HoN. EHOME has recently started playing, they are not doing it seriously yet however.

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 Post subject: Re: Heroes of Newerth
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:54 am 
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Not known? Anyone know has anything to do with serious gaming knows HoN. Hell, I've known about it for well over a year by now as far as i can remember, and I hate DotA. It used to be cool like 5-6 years ago or whatever. Aeon, eternal conflict and tides of blood were the shit :D.


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 Post subject: Re: Heroes of Newerth
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/relatively

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 Post subject: Re: Heroes of Newerth
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Yeah, but relative to what? Unless by gaming community you include scrubs playing MW2 on their Xbox and all the farmville people, then I would say HoN is very well known. Especially for just recently getting out of beta.


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 Post subject: Re: Heroes of Newerth
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As I mention in my previous post, there is a massive support for modding.. This could be the best mod that has ever been created for any game, ever.


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